Outside of Craft beer nerd circles and brewing forums, one of the most recognizable beers has to be Guinness, which based on its oil-like appearance is viewed by many as being the polar opposite of the pale fizzy yellow swill most of us are accustomed to.

Indeed, despite its popularity, Irish stout has developed an erroneous reputation of sorts

for being heavy, filling, and quicker to escort one to the spirit world.

This is the Brulosophy podcast.

I'm your host, Marshall Schott, and in this episode,

contributor Malcolm Fraser is with me

to chat about this deliciously misunderstood style.

And there's no real leap off point for when Irish stout became what at least the

BJCP started calling the dry Irish style.

Some people will hearken back to like perhaps Michael Jackson, the beer writer,

his descriptions of it, but you know this intrig intrigues me I love the idea of of

stout and Porter because you can't talk about stout without talking about

Porter yeah but man the more you research it I have to admit I don't I don't

know where they what they are

well I know what they I know they are in modern sense I know if you pour me a

beer now and you say what is this I'm probably apt to describe it if it were a Guinness for example as a

dry Irish style or at least an Irish style but when that exact leaping off point

became the more I research it the less I think I know.

Yeah, yeah, and we're going to get into the history of this really interesting style.

I think it's got such a rich history.

You know, one of the things when I think about Irish stout or anything that's termed stout, you know it used to not be a style

that was actually a description right I mean an adjective yeah an adjective to

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