Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast, I'm Matt Chauley bringing you food week. All this week

on my time set is shown Monday to Friday, 10 to 1, listen live on your DAB radio, on

your smart speaker, or of course download the Times Radio app.

Coming up on today's episode, we're looking at the Nanny State. Should the Nanny State

be policing what you put in your shopping basket? And why erase the government on things

like banning boggoths and someone to talk about that in just a moment? But first, as

we always do, let's kick off with today's Columnist panel.

The Columnists on Times Radio.

Yes, there's a special treat we're going to get the full story for my former independent

on Sunday. Colleagues, Jaymex here. Hello, Jayme.

Hello.

Ah, Matthew Bell. Hello, Matthew.

Now, where do you two stand on the big question of the day? We're asking for food week

this week. Wheel milk versus fake milk, Jayme.

It's got to be real milk. I mean, I can't have a cup of tea with fake milk. I did try

oat milk once on cereal, which was fine. But I mean, I have a not allergies. I can't have

all the almond business anyway. But you just need with tea, Yorkshire tea, real milk in

second. I don't want to add another layer to this debate, but you had the milk has to

come in second after the tea back. No, sorry. We did, we did tea in coffee yesterday,

so it's fine. It's all joyed up. Matthew, where do you stand on this big, important

issue, which is divided in the nation? Well, I'm glad we're really milking this subject

for you. Ah, I got cut off. But I'm sorry to say I'm with Jane on this. It's got to

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