Shooting the Shit About Sending The Elevator Back Down And Paying It Forward With Blurbs
The Shit No One Tells You About Writing
Bianca Marais, Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra
4.8 • 842 Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
This week, Carly and CeCe are covering a little bit of everything—from surprising publishing mishaps to the realities of author blurbs and the strange psychology of the slush pile. They unpack what happens when an offer lands in an agent’s inbox… with the author’s name spelled wrong, why blurbs still matter (even when authors are overwhelmed by requests), and the unspoken etiquette of returning the favor in publishing’s “blurb economy.” The conversation also dives into overused comp titles in queries, how agents manage the emotional rollercoaster of the job, and why beta reader praise doesn’t always translate into agent requests.
Plus: magazine guilty pleasures, audiobook debates, and the self-care strategies agents rely on when the job gets intense.
Note: CeCe Lyra is a literary agent at Wendy Sherman Associates. If you’d like to query CeCe, please refer to the submission guidelines at www.wsherman.com. Carly Watters is a literary agent at P.S. Literary Agency, but her work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly on this podcast are solely that of her as a podcast co-host ​and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to another episode of Shooting the Shit with literary agents Carly Waters and Cece Learro, |
| 0:08.2 | where we dissect publishing gossip, discuss book industry trends, and the overall state of the book business. |
| 0:14.1 | If you've ever wanted to grab a coffee with two literary agents, grab your mug and pull up a chair. |
| 0:26.0 | Thank you. agents, grab your mug and pull up a chair. Hi, everybody. |
| 0:27.0 | Happy Monday. |
| 0:28.0 | We are so happy to see you. |
| 0:29.5 | I'm really loving all of the uptick on YouTube. |
| 0:32.0 | And so I actually watched ourselves back. |
| 0:34.1 | I say I never watch us back, C.C. |
| 0:36.1 | I actually watched us back a little bit on YouTube. I actually like it better than just listening to me on, like if I was to go on Spotify or Apple podcast. Because it brings back the memory of you and I having that conversation in a way where I'm like, oh, I'm just reliving the conversation. I don't know. There's something better about watching it on YouTube. That's my two sense. It's because you're so beautiful. So then you get to watch your beautiful self. Yeah. Yeah. Hot people have privileges. It's true. Cece and I have talked about this before, but we also have, we have the same good side. And so. Yes, we do. I don't know if like on YouTube, who gets the good side? I guess it depends on the way we turn our faces, but we often argue but who gets to have the good side. |
| 1:15.8 | So when we take pictures, like it's really hard because we have to take turns, right? Because either I get the good side or Carly gets the good side. |
| 1:22.4 | I think every listener will agree with me that all of your sides are good, Carly. So I should be winning every time |
| 1:28.5 | because I legit have one. I have a scar on the other side of my face. So, listen, you are also beautiful. Should we tell people the next place we're going to be in person? Because I actually don't think we have dropped this information yet to everybody. We have teased the idea that we are all going to be in the same place, but should we let everybody know? I don't know that we need to do it with the three of us. |
| 1:47.2 | Okay, okay. We'll wait, we'll wait after the next episode of the three of us, and we will let you guys know. Because I was thinking about that, because we're all going to be in person together this summer. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're right. And you'll see who will win the good side battle. |
| 2:01.8 | You'll see. |
| 2:02.5 | You'll see. |
| 2:03.3 | We don't know. We don't know. It's a mystery. There you go. Okay. Well, we'll save that. I was going to say, to kick us off, I have a mystery question. But it's not an answer on the spot question. You know how analytical I am. I'm someone who if you ask me something, I want to process it. |
| 2:17.5 | I want to look at it through every angle. |
| 2:19.7 | Build all these answer trees in my head. You're welcome to answer right away, but I wanted to invite you to think about it. And then you can answer when we record this next week. Do we record next week? I think we do. Yeah. So this is the question. If you could sign any dead author, this author will now come back to life. Okay. They're not going to stay dead. They will magically come back to life, not like a gross zombie situation. They're like, they look nice. You know, they're lovely to work with. I mean, they're just as lovely as they were when they were alive. And if you could sign any author who has already passed away, who would you sign fiction or nonfiction? It's totally up to you. The reason why I'm saying only dead authors is because we're lovely agents. We don't poach, right? So, but if they're dead, their agent is dead too, because everyone knows that that's what happens. Your agent dies after you die. Because we can't live without our clients. |
| 3:13.3 | So we're not poaching anyone because the agent has not resurrected. Yes, exactly. So the agent has not resurrected, no zombie agent, just zombie author. And so you get to sign them. So who would it be? |
| 3:20.4 | Who would you sign? And I will answer the same. I will ask the question of myself. I haven't |
| 3:24.8 | thought about it yet. All right. Okay. Well, I wrote that down. I'll make a note. I will think about that. And we will touch base on that next week. Also, if anybody wants to comment on the YouTube comment section and let us know who they would want to see come back to life as an author, let us know what your ideas are and I won't take any of your ideas. |
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