I remember getting called into a room full of old men and they brought us into

tell me that nobody was going to watch a show about a woman who would sleep

with a man the night before her first day of work. And they were dead serious.

I'm Carly Zaken and I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to 9-5-ish with the skin.

We've run into so many questions over the years and had so many moments where

we needed advice and we got it from women who'd been there. And that's what

we're bringing you with this show. Each week we're helping you get what you

want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders we know. Because we

know your work life is a lot more than 9-5. All right let's get into it.

Hi everyone. Today our guests are Shonda Rhymes and Betsy Beers, the award-winning

creative duo and partners in crime behind Shondaland. Shonda and Betsy

have worked together since the early 2000s and they continue producing must-see

TV. Shonda has written and created some of our favorite shows from Grey's

Anatomy to Scandal and Tonsmore. She has a CEO, a showrunner, a producer, and the

author of the New York Times bestseller Year of Yes. We should also note that

she's a minor investor in the skin. Betsy is Shonda's creative partner and the

powerhouse executive producer who keeps the land part of Shondaland running as

she produces and develops shows with Shonda and other writers. Recently they've

teamed up as co-authors to give fans a behind-the-scenes look at their

latest Netflix hit with their book Inside Bridgerton. Shonda and Betsy,

welcome to 9-5-ish. Hello. Hi. We are so excited. We're going to kick it off

with some lightning round questions for you both. Are you ready? Uh-oh.

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