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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Shocking Crucifixion Murder of Beloved "Pastor Bill", Body Staged!

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

A beloved pastor and Vietnam War Vet is murdered in his own home and his body is  "staged" with his arms spread out and his hands pinned to the wall to resemble crucifixion. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the murder of 76-year-old William Schoneman. Who would want Schoneman dead?  Lovingly called "Pastor Bill" by the community, he had been the pastor at New River Bible Chapel for 25 years. Who would kill a pastor loved by all and why the elaborate staging? Answers are tough to come by and law enforcement isn't sharing info.

 

 

 

 

 

 Transcript Highlights
00:12.53 Introduction - Confession

02:16.95 Killer on the loose on Carefree Highway

05:08.34 Pastor murdered, body staged

09:17.30 Killer needed privacy and time

14:14.36 Law Enforcement says Public is "safe"

19:13.12 Torture involved in  murder, hands "pinned" to wall

23:06.75 Pastor was loved and respected by the community

27:07.79 Moving body without destroying evidence 

32:12.98 Mattress holds evidence  

35:39.52 Conclusion

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0:00.0

You're listening to an IHeart podcast.

0:06.2

Bodybacks with Joseph Scott Moore.

0:10.6

I got a confession to make probably to my wife, Kimmy's great chagrin many times.

0:20.8

Probably my favorite folk-slash-acoustic artist of the 1970s is Gordon Lightfoot.

0:30.7

I can't help myself.

0:32.5

I could listen to him for hours and hours.

0:35.2

And she can tolerate it for a while, but she... She gets weary.

0:41.8

I understand.

0:43.5

But there's something about the music that he creates.

0:47.7

And I had kind of an interesting intersection with Gordon Lightfoot's music and my travels. I was out in Arizona many years ago.

1:00.0

I was at an educational conference and we had to get out of town. It was in the middle of July.

1:06.0

We were in Phoenix and it was broiling hot and we decided to take a trip to Sedona, where it's about 40 degrees cooler.

1:15.1

And along the way, I looked up, and I saw a sign that said, Carefree Highway.

1:24.3

And suddenly it came to me that this was the stretch of road, that Gordon, or Gordo, as he's known, wrote the lyrics to the song, his hit from the 70s, Carefree Highway.

1:41.2

And that song means a lot to me. It's so peaceful. But I'm going to talk about a case today that is so

1:49.6

utterly bizarre from what we know at this point. And it happens not too far away from that stretch

1:58.3

of highway, carefree highway, but the circumstances around this case are anything

2:04.6

but carefree. And to this moment, there's a killer among them out there. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan,

2:14.1

and this is body bags.

2:19.1

Dave,

2:20.0

please tell me,

2:23.4

please tell me that you like Gordon Lightfoot.

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