The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everybody, welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others.

Every week I host a conversation with the Christ follower

who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft.

We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habit. of their

history, daily habits, and how their faith influences their work.

Today's guest is Scho Baraka.

He is a world-renowned hip-hop artist who's hit the

number one Billboard gospel charts and top 10 on the Billboard rap charts

transcending the quote unquote Christian music and mainstream

rap markets. I recently read Show's first book titled He Saw that it was good.

I just thought it was exceptional and had to have him on the show.

So Show and I recently sat down, we talked about Waffle House and our shared love of Waffle House at good work by the good people there.

We talked about what we can learn from studying the work of those outside of our industries.

So for show that's Dave Chappelle for me,

surprise, surprise, that's Taylor Swift.

We talked about why Show and I delete

and reinstall Instagram on a daily basis,

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