Hey guys and welcome to episode 186 of the O. C.D. stories

dot com podcast.

Now in this episode I interview

therapist Schmoor Fishler.

Schmall is an Ocity therapist based in Baltimore and specifically in this episode we talk

about religious OCD and scruplocity. So this is part of my theme series where

I'm going into the different themes of OCDCD, trying to cover as many as I can.

And we talk about what is religious OCD, what is scruplocity, what's the difference between the two terms,

common compulsions and obsessions within this theme

distinguishing between what is a religious ritual versus what is an OCD ritual or

compulsion working with religious figures to support therapy, example exposures

for religious OCD, the effectiveness of ERP for it, family involvement and then words of hope and much more.

So I enjoyed this chat and thank you to Schmall for his time.

And without further ado, here he is.

On the podcast today, I'm joined by Schmall Fishler. Schmall is the owner and lead clinician at

CBT Baltimore. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

Yes, it's good to have you on.

And I was on your web show a while back now, so I'll link in the show notes of that if people want to check it out.

So it's nice to be able to return the favour. So before we start, it'd be good just to hear your therapy story. What got you into being a therapist

and also treating people with OCD.

Sure, sure.

So, when I first started getting into the field,

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