Shiny Happy People: Are Children Born Evil? (#200)

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 542 Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Episode 2 of Shiny Happy People depicts Gothard's obedience teaching and child discipline, including spanking and the “break their will” approach. Paired with a deep fear of God’s punishment, Dan and Mark discuss how violent approaches like spanking confuse children and can even cross the line into spiritual abuse. Part 2 (Patreon feed–subscribe to access) dives deeper into the “umbrellas of authority,” as well as grooming language and the sexual abuse as it occurred in the Duggar household. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/ www.reimagine.org/#overview YHP #37 - What Comes After Purity Culture?: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000450839620 More Purity Culture resources: https://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/topics/sex-and-purity-culture Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	My name is Dan Koch. Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.
0:10.8	And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts.
0:18.0	I want this show to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as
0:23.0	former Christians and non-religious folks, anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions
0:29.2	about God, science, prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given bad answers to those good questions, often by people with
0:42.6	pure intentions.
0:44.1	I want to say that you have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very
0:50.5	seriously.
0:51.7	And I hope to facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across
0:56.5	the Christian spectrum, engaging hard questions in a multitude of ways. Thanks for listening.
1:08.2	Mark Skandrette, thank you so much for being back. We are doing episode two of shiny,
1:13.4	happy people. And this one is a doozy. Oh, my goodness. I mean, I remember when I watched this with my kids,
1:22.8	like the first episode, we're like, oh, wow. And then we get into the second one, and it just name-checks all these
1:31.6	things that are so common to fundamentalist religious experience, hierarchy, anti-science,
1:39.4	prohibitions about games and toys and music, policing women's appearance, sexual repression and secret
1:46.7	addictions to pornography and behavior motivated by fear of punishment or fear of hell, rigid
1:54.7	gender roles, corporal punishment, courting. We can spend an hour and a half on any of those.
2:03.0	Yeah.
2:03.6	I mean, okay, so just brief reminder to listeners what we're doing or in case they miss
2:08.0	the first one.
2:08.7	So we are doing, there are four episodes of the Amazon Web series or docuseries,
2:14.0	Amazon Prime Video docuseries, shiny happy people, Dugger family secrets.
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