Boniorno or Buenos Aires, depending on when you're listening to this. I'm Dave Holmes. Welcome to

Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular culture is the most important kind of culture

because it's the kind of culture that has the fall guy in it. Go back and see that movie. Don't

let this, don't get, do it. It's a good summer movie. Anyway, Troubled Waters pits a pair of

entertainers against one another in a pop culture battle to the ego death.

To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills, the great comebacks that they've been saving in their notes app to earn the coveted troubled waters titled Pundit Amaritus, which will automatically give their opinion on why you should go see

the fall guy, more weight than a civilians. I'm just back from Italy. I'm going to work it into conversation so

much during this game show. You won't believe it. I am exhausted. I am full of meats and cheeses.

I have had my mind blown by architecture and art. When I see you, I will kiss you on both cheeks. I will say

chow. It's fucking gross. But that's, we'll get into that later. Let us now meet our guests.

Our first contestant is an actor and the host of the podcast Parks and Recollection. Jim O'Hare,

welcome. Hello, Dave. Thanks for having me.

Great to have you.

How have you been?

I'm good.

I'm good.

Why you were in Italy?

I'm so jealous.

I was in Italy.

I was in Bologna and Venice.

I had never been to Italy before.

I don't know why I left it for so long, but it's, yeah, it's... Venice is one of my favorite places I've ever been to in my life.

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