If the first 50 years were an experiment, to prove that a business could be

responsible and successful, turns out it's not just possible, it's profitable.

So what's next? What's next is simple, it's human power and it's finding the joy

in doing difficult things. What's next is turning capitalism on its head and

putting all our money where our mouth is. What's next is unstoppable.

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You're listening to The Dirt Pack Darius, a production of Duck Tape Than Beer, with

additional support from Kuat Racks because you love your bike, rumple, blankets

and gear for everywhere, and athletic greens, the daily drink for a healthier

you. You ready Cordelia? I am ready, but for what? I love how I torch you

with that pattern question. Like, are you ready? I'm here. Are you ready for

a question? Sure. Okay. What is one of your strengths? And I don't mean like,

are you better at pull-ups versus push-ups? I mean, what is one of your

strengths in your personality? Oh, man. I feel like I am a pretty empathetic

person and like, it's easy for me to feel what somebody else is feeling and

then to respond to those emotions in a sensitive way, I think. And that's

probably why I love acting in music as much as I do. Do you think that like

empathy is there a correlating weakness that it produced? Like sort of

it's like ying to yang? Yeah, I definitely think so. I think it's it's easy for

me to get overly involved in people's feelings and to kind of lose my own

sense of stability if that makes sense. Like I sometimes have a hard time

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