Hello and welcome to 10 Blocks, the City Journal podcast. I'm your host today, Howard Husek, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and a contributing editor to City Journal.

I'm joined today by one of America's most original and courageous writers and scholars, Shelby Steele, of the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and by Eli Steele, who heads the documentary film production firm, Man of Steel Productions.

They're the co-producers of the new film, What Killed Michael Brown, a film that all Americans interested in gaining a clearer understanding of our racial dilemmas should see,

but which Amazon Prime has decided you shouldn't see. We'll talk about the

film and Amazon's decision with Shelby and Eli Steele. Shelby Steele came of age in Chicago. He's the author

of five books, including how America's past sins have polarized our country, main title, Shane.

Two documentary films previously, he's won the National Book Critics Circle Award, Emmy Award and the Writers Guild Award for his 1991 Frontline Documentary, Seven Days in Bensonhurst. Eli Steel has produced and directed three films, What's Bugging Seth, Unlucky, Lucky, and now What Killed

Michael Brown. What killed Michael Brown is a tour to force that uses the fact of teenager

Michael Brown's death as a result of a confrontation with a Ferguson, Missouri police officer,

as the point of departure for a great deal,

including the facts of that case,

which garnered national, international attention,

and how it intersects with the effects of progressive politics,

the black community,

and how it contrasts with Shelby Steele's own life as a black American,

and with those of other blacks in the film

that he might characterize as being committed

to recovering their own personal agency.

Welcome, Shelby and Eli.

Good to be here.

Thank you for happy years.

Shelby, let me start with the news that you've made with this film.

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