Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City Journal.

Coming up on the show,

today we have a terrific conversation between two contributors and friends of the magazine,

Alison Schrager, my colleague here at the Manhattan Institute, and her guest for the interview economist Casey Mulligan. Casey is a professor at the University of Chicago where he's taught

for many years,

but he took a break from his academic career to work for the Trump administration, serving

as chief economist of the White House Council of Economic Advisors from 2018 to 2019.

He has a new book about his time in the White House called You're Hired, Untold Successes and Failures of a Populous President.

With the election coming up next week, we thought this would be an excellent time to invite Casey on the podcast.

Before we get started, just a couple of announcements.

First, we want to invite our listeners to check out the

Manhattan Institute's Virtual Civil Society Awards, happening this Thursday, October 29th, at 5 p.m.

Easter. We'll hear from five outstanding nonprofits and their leaders, and it should be a great

event. If you miss it, you can find it on the Manhattan Institute's YouTube channel, where you can also find all our recent events. Second, subscribers to the

magazine, City Journal, will be happy to know that the autumn issue is hot off the press,

and should be arriving in your mailbox any day now. Some of the pieces are already available

online, but you can check out the full

lineup of essays on the City Journal website. That's it for me, and now for our conversation

between Alison Schrager and Casey Mulligan. Hi, I'm Alison Schrager, and I'm a senior fellow

here at the Manhattan Institute, and today I am

delighted to be joined by Casey Mulligan, the Kenneth C. Griffin Professor of Economics at the

University of Chicago, who has just written a book I really enjoyed reading and wholeheartedly

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