At BuzzFeed I was making a lot of money, like upwards of $600,000.

Right, because you were in sales.

I was in sales and I was one of the top players.

So I was making a ton of money and I was like, well, you know, am I ever going to be able to make that much money doing

your rich bFF stuff like is that even a reality for me?

Did you have the logical combo of like I need to scratch this itch and even if rich

you know bFF fails I'll be able to go get another job because of who I am at some point.

Gary, you're out here stealing my thunder.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Yeah, no.

Attention is the number one asset.

Fainor Nation, how are you?

This is exciting.

As all of you know, I've really converted my podcast into podcast with friends where we usually

have three guests, but I kind of like to break my own rules. And though I said I was going to do a lot of these

I thought it'd be fun to do a one-on-one on this because this book has caught a lot of people's

attention. I think the subject of financial literacy really really matters.

And I think Vivian's done a really good job in capturing the essence of what I think is going

on in the modern landscape of information and personal brand and things of that nature,

and so it's really nice to have you here.

Thank you so much for having me. Of course. Why don't you tell everybody let's do a little three

four minutes where I'll give you the mic where you can tell everybody who you are and a little bit about your story?

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