I'd never met anyone like him.

We'd drive around Rome on his Vesper.

And he'd read me poetry from the old steps.

And that's when I knew I was in love.

I didn't know you and Grandin met him out of Italy.

Oh, no. We met the following year.

Grant!

Anyway, Paris was even wilder.

Getting to know Gran before she was grand.

On the train, you can.

This is a global original podcast.

Hello and welcome to full disclosure, a project conceived largely to let me, James O'Brien,

spend time with people I've either not met or haven't been able to have a proper sit down and natter with,

a category, both categories, into which Sharon Hogan falls.

So thank you very much for joining.

Thanks for having me.

Let's begin with a declaration of interest. Before we start talking about your incredibly high-achieving family, I should add that your sister was a colleague of ours at LBC. Brilliant journalist. Oh, rainy, yeah, yeah. Oh. So that's got us off on a great start. Yeah, we've got a connection now. A little bit of common ground. To begin at the beginning, you're born in London, but you moved to Ireland at four

after your New Zealand father was offered the opportunity to run a turkey farm.

Well, almost. Yes, I was born in London. Yes, I moved to Ireland when I was four.

My parents had, they ran a pub in Bo Bo and then they got offered another pub in Ireland.

So they moved to another pub before they got the turkey calling.

How did that come about?

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