SHARK: Elemental Symbol of Our Will to Survive and Ravenous Hunger for Experience
This Jungian Life Podcast
Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano
4.8 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 June 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Primeval, silent, relentless—the shark announces itself as its fin slices the water. In that instant, ego’s barriers shudder and give way: you’re not anxious; you’re utterly alert, stripped of distraction by a force both familiar and uncanny.
When you stop battling that raw terror and honor it—offer a silent libation of attention—the predator becomes a protector. Here, in the shark’s unblinking gaze, you meet the stranger in your depths, the animality you once fled, now guiding you to face what you’ve long denied.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this Jungian life. |
| 0:04.2 | Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee, |
| 0:09.7 | invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day. |
| 0:19.4 | I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee, |
| 0:24.9 | and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst, |
| 0:31.1 | and Cape Cod. |
| 0:47.2 | Thank you. Today we are going to talk about sharks. |
| 1:01.7 | And as listeners are well aware, I live on Cape Cod where sharks are of great local interest. We have many of them, |
| 1:12.7 | a population of hundreds of great white sharks off the coast of Cape Cod due to our enormous seal population, |
| 1:17.6 | partly because of a government act protecting them, |
| 1:20.5 | partly because of a break in the outer barrier. |
| 1:24.9 | So we have what sharks most like to eat, |
| 1:26.6 | which is seals. |
| 1:28.3 | And they... Yummy. |
| 1:31.7 | Says our favorite young shark lady. |
| 1:36.4 | And there was a fatal shark attack here in 2018. |
| 1:40.9 | But more than that, more than the outer world reality factors, which are interesting and many, |
| 1:48.7 | what happens in the inner world that gets lit up in us when we think about sharks and what might be |
| 1:57.8 | lurking in the water that we want to go in for recreational purposes. |
| 2:03.6 | But what's underneath below the surface with teeth? |
| 2:08.7 | So, Deb, I just want to ask you, do you, do you, like, see sharks from time to time? |
| 2:13.3 | I have never seen, I have never seen a shark. |
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