Sharing Truth with Jen Hatmaker EP 425

Best of Both Worlds Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Kids & Family, Careers, Business

4.6 • 761 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In today's episode, Sarah and Laura open by remembering the spring of 2020, the last time Jen was on the show and a time frame just a bit before the opening of her new memoir, Awake. Jen shares how she's evolved her career with time and what it was like to share her raw experiences in her recent work, which chronicles the dissolution of her marriage after she woke up to hear her husband dictating a text to his girlfriend one fateful night that summer.

In the Q&A, a listener wonders how to best handle car logistics with a new teen driver.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	This is an I-Heart podcast.
0:13.6	Hi, I'm Laura Vanderkamp.
0:15.8	I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.
0:19.7	And I'm Sarah Hart Unger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, and course creator.
0:25.0	We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.
0:28.9	Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.
0:30.9	Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.
0:35.3	From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals, we want you to get the most out of life.
0:45.3	Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.
0:47.1	This is Laura.
0:47.9	This episode is airing in late September of 2025.
0:51.3	We're excited to welcome Jen Hatmaker back to the show.
0:56.2	Jen is the author of a brand new memoir called Awake, which is about the end of her 26-year marriage and the aftermath of that.
1:04.6	So Jen was actually on the show back in April of 2020, which I distinctly remember because
1:09.8	it was one of those pandemic, like early pandemic interviews when I was doing it because if it aired in April, 2020, which I distinctly remember because it was one of those pandemic,
1:14.5	like early pandemic interviews when I was doing it because if it aired in April,
1:17.2	we were probably recording in either early April or March.
1:21.8	So everyone was still sort of figuring out what on earth was going on.
1:24.9	And I remember talking to her then. But I was pondering, like, do you have memories of April 2020, Sarah?
1:29.1	How is, like, that you are still holding on to from that part of your life?
1:33.7	They weren't positive. I mean, yeah, like, I had a two and a half year old. I had a kindergartner who was, like, school and it was like the failest failed that ever
1:46.6	failed. Like it just did not work. And then the only kid that was sort of learning anything was
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from iHeartPodcasts, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of iHeartPodcasts and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.