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🗓️ 20 May 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Spycast, the official podcast of the International Spy Museum. |
0:08.0 | I'm your host, Sasha Inber, and each week I take you into the shadows of espionage, intelligence, and covert operations across the globe. |
0:19.0 | After Russia's full-scale invasion, the U.S. rushed to create a secret center |
0:26.6 | that set targets for the Ukrainians to destroy. |
0:29.6 | But the counteroffensive of 2023 failed to achieve its goals. |
0:34.6 | So, what went wrong? New York Times reporter Adam Entus spent more |
0:41.0 | than a year trying to answer that question. Through hundreds of interviews with officials on |
0:46.3 | both sides of the Atlantic, he uncovered a story shaped by politics and personalities. Americans and Ukrainian generals clashing over resources, |
0:57.7 | troop numbers and movements, and plans of attack. |
1:01.4 | Disagreements turned into mistrust and mistrust into missteps, and the consequences were felt |
1:08.4 | acutely on the battlefield. |
1:11.5 | Adam, you had reported on a coalition of intelligence officers from the CIA, NSA, the Defense |
1:19.2 | Intelligence Agency, the National Geospatial Intel Agency, and others, and how they were |
1:25.7 | operating out of a basement at a U.S. military base in Weissbaud in |
1:30.3 | Germany under an operation called Task Force Dragon. Tell us about that operation. |
1:37.1 | So this was set up around April 2022 shortly after the Russian full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
1:44.8 | And there was a realization right from the beginning when they set up Task Force Dragon |
1:49.3 | that they were going to need to provide, in addition to bullets and mortar shells and |
1:54.9 | later Himars rockets, that they would need to provide them with intelligence. |
1:59.7 | And so what happened is policymakers at the |
2:02.6 | White House, at the Director of National Intelligence here in Washington, they basically wrote these |
2:08.8 | rules, which decided what we could share with them. And those rules told the guys in the basement |
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