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Today on the Grave Talks, shap who can transform into an animal internally or externally that captures our imagination.

It causes us to want to howl at the moon, or flit through the night like a

bat. Wherewalls, vampires, demons, other strange supernatural creatures appeal to our animal nature, our dark

side, our desire to break free of our bonds of society and proper behavior.

Real or imaginary, shapers lurk deep in our psyches

and remain formidable cultural icons.

Today we dive into the world of shapers, what they are and how they affect society.

It's a conversation with author John Kishuba.

Basically, you know, as you know, I've done a lot of work with ghost books and things like that.

Sure.

And it seems like every time I do a talk about, ghost, somebody in the audience has a question that when I hear it I think you know they're really not talking about a ghost or talking about shape shifters.

And my classic understanding of shafshifters was sort of the werewolf vampire kind of stereotype that we all know.

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