Shani Darden on Retinol, Treating Acne, and Why She Doesn’t Trust Lasers
Naked Beauty
The Naked Beauty Podcast
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🗓️ 8 December 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Shani Darden just might be your favorite celebrity’s esthetician. From her Beverly Hills Studio, she cares for a roster of A-List celebrities and creates products for many more through Sephora. Before she began working with stars like Jessica Alba and Kelly Rowland, Shani was a mixed-race teenager in upstate New York who didn’t fit neatly into any community. Her family ensured that she had connections to Black hairstylists and introduced her to Mary Kay Beauty and DIY face masks. So, while she grew up feeling beautiful, she didn’t always fit in. During our chat, she explained that she always had plans to move to a big city and build her dream life, even when she didn’t know exactly what her path would be.
Shani’s life is a testament to taking opportunities to move and grow, especially when you feel uncomfortable. When a modeling opportunity in LA arose, she jumped at the chance and moved across the country. When she became disillusioned with the industry, she pivoted and sought out a new dream. Upon discovering esthetician school, Shani’s childhood interest in beauty and her professional experience in spas aligned. With Jessica Alba’s encouragement, she leapt into her own home-based studio and welcomed in a swell of new clients. Shani gives us an insider’s look at her skincare philosophy and what she recommends for any beauty enthusiast over 25. She also gets real about the limits of skincare and non-surgical treatment, offering us refreshingly realistic expectations for our beauty treatments.
Tune in as we discuss:
(2:30) Growing Up With Mary Kay Beauty
(6:25) Growing Up Feeling Out of Place
(8:20) Her First Sew-In and Emulating Lisa Bonet
(13:30) Jessica Alba’s Encouragement To Open Her Own Space
(17:45) Shani’s Skincare Philosophy
(22:50) Her Take On Lymphatic Drainage Massages
(26:45) Filler, Botox, and The Limits of Skincare
(28:45) PRFM Takes Multiple Rounds
(30:10) Why Lasers Give Her Anxiety
(32:53) Why She Formulated Over-The-Counter Retinol
(41:57) Her Daily Skincare Routine
(44:18) Skincare Rules She Despises
(55:05) Advice On Launching A Brand Right Now
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Products Mentioned:
Kelly Baker Brow Defining Pencil
Tower 28 MakeWaves Lengthening + Volumizing Mascara
Chanel Rouge Coco Gloss Moisturizing Glossimer
Carnal Flower by Frederic Malle
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello, this is Brooke DeVard, and you're listening to The Naked Beauty Podcast. |
| 0:11.8 | And if you're with us here on YouTube, you're watching The Naked Beauty Podcast. |
| 0:15.3 | It is a kind of sunny day here in Los Angeles. |
| 0:18.1 | We've had torrential downpours, which, like, never happens. |
| 0:20.5 | Did you wake up from the thunder last night? |
| 0:21.7 | Oh my God, I thought it was dying. |
| 0:23.0 | The world was ending. |
| 0:23.9 | Yeah, it's never happened. |
| 0:25.5 | Never, ever, ever, right? |
| 0:27.1 | Lightning thunder, it was a lot. |
| 0:28.8 | I've got, hence me being in like a trench coat and like cozy little drink. |
| 0:32.5 | Where are you from? |
| 0:33.5 | New York. |
| 0:34.4 | Oh, you are from New York. |
| 0:36.1 | Right, so I'm from upstate New York. |
| 0:37.9 | Oh, okay. |
| 0:38.3 | So we have those rains and that's normal. So everyone's here. They're all wimps, but I haven't been there in so long that like I was the wimp. I was like, oh my God, it's ending. It's over. Yes. I want to tell you about today's incredible guests, Shawnee Darden. She's an esthetician and entrepreneur who helps some of Hollywood's most famous faces achieve and maintain their flawless complexions. Her clients include |
| 0:54.2 | Jessica Alba, January Jones, and Kelly Rowland, among others. In 2019, after years of treating |
| 0:59.3 | clients in her home, Shawnee opened her flagship studio in Beverly Hills, which the space looks so beautiful. |
| 1:05.4 | I need to come. I need to come. And if all of that wasn't enough, |
| 1:11.7 | Shawnee also has her own skincare line and her products are cult favorites amongst celebrities |
| 1:16.4 | and just mere mortals like myself. Shani, I'm so happy to finally, finally, |
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