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🗓️ 13 January 2025
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0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast, which we've renamed to |
0:10.5 | be Cult Conversations, in the influence continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan. |
0:17.1 | And today we have a very interesting guest, Lucas Wilson, is the Shirk Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Toronto, Mississauga, and was formerly the Justice, Equity and Transformation Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Calgary. |
0:35.9 | He's the editor of a new book that I'm very interested to talk |
0:40.0 | with him about called shame, sex attraction, as opposed to ha-ha, same-sex attraction. Sorry, |
0:48.6 | I couldn't help that. Survivor's Stories of Conversion Therapy. And Lucas is also the author of At Home with the Holocaust, |
0:57.5 | post-memory domestic space and second-generation Holocaust literature, |
1:02.5 | which received the Jordan Schnitzer First Book Publication Award. |
1:07.2 | Your public-facing writing has appeared in all kinds of publications, |
1:12.2 | including The Advocate, QWERTY, LGBTQ Nation, Religion Dispatches, and other venues. |
1:19.0 | And you're currently working on two interrelated monograph projects |
1:22.9 | that examine evangelical homophobia and transphobia |
1:27.7 | in the United States. |
1:30.0 | So Lucas, I should say that John Sawyer, |
1:36.3 | someone that I interviewed about his experience |
1:39.7 | with exorcism and craziness introduced me to you, |
1:43.9 | and I immediately was like, yes, I want Lucas on. |
1:48.2 | And I have written previously how conversion therapy is not therapy. |
1:53.7 | It's brainwashing and it doesn't work. |
1:56.7 | You can tell people that they're not gay and indoctrinate them, but it just doesn't work |
2:03.2 | because people are gay. With that, forgive my ramblings a little bit, Lucas. So did you have a |
2:14.4 | personal experience that caused you to want to do this volume? |
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