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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Shakespeare and Insane Asylums

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Folger Shakespeare Library

Arts

4.8879 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2015

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

"Though this be madness, yet there is method in ’t." (Hamlet, 2.2.223) Plenty of people today consider Shakespeare a literary genius, a pillar of theater history, a gifted writer of timeless love poems, and more. But even the most over-the-top contemporary admirer of Shakespeare is unlikely to consider him a pioneer of modern medical science... much less forensic psychiatry. Hard as it may be to believe, however, there was a strange period in American history when that's exactly how William Shakespeare was seen in both law and medicine. Rebecca Sheir, host of the Shakespeare Unlimited series, interviews Benjamin Reiss, a professor in the English department at Emory University and the author of a book called "Theaters of Madness: Insane Asylums and Nineteenth-Century American Culture." "From the mid-1840s through about the mid-1860s in the United States, during the first generation of American psychiatry, no figure was cited as an authority on insanity and mental functioning more frequently than William Shakespeare," says Reiss. Such citations were not just in medical journals, he adds, but in sworn legal testimony. The reason, we learn in this podcast, was essentially this: Modern psychiatry was a fledgling field, regarded with distrust and little respect by many Americans. What it needed, above all, was authority—and what better, more respected authority than the great playwright? Join us to explore this curious yet fascinating intersection between civil society and William Shakespeare. ------------------- From the Shakespeare Unlimited podcast series. © Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. Produced for the Folger Shakespeare Library by Richard Paul. Garland Scott is associate producer. Edited by Gail Kern Paster and Esther Ferington. Recorded by Toby Schreiner.

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0:00.0

From the Folger Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited.

0:07.0

I'm Michael Whitmore, the Folgers director.

0:09.8

This podcast is called, Though This Be Madness, yet there is method in it.

0:15.1

It's a look at perhaps one of the oddest appropriations of Shakespeare imaginable.

0:20.5

Shakespeare certainly wrote about characters

0:22.6

who suffered from various forms of mental illness. Certainly Ophelia and for a time, King Lear. Arguably

0:29.9

Hamlet and Macbeth, too. But none of them is real. They're just characters in plays sprung from

0:36.2

the mind of a writer.

0:44.7

Certainly there's nothing you can learn from Shakespeare's insane characters that will tell you something about actual insanity, right?

0:49.3

Well, that's actually what we're going to be talking about in this podcast.

1:00.5

Ben Reese is a professor in the English department at Emory University and the author of a book called Theaters of Madness, Insane Asylums, and 19th Century American Culture.

1:06.3

He's found out some startling things about insanity and Shakespeare in 19th century America. From the mid-1840s through about the mid-1860s in the United States, during the first generation of American psychiatry,

1:15.7

no figure was cited as an authority on insanity and mental functioning more frequently than William Shakespeare.

1:22.7

Everything we need to know about insanity, we learned from Shakespeare. Crazy, right?

1:28.8

Have a listen.

1:30.3

Ben Rees is interviewed by Rebecca Shear.

1:33.1

So, Ben, you write that this fixation on Shakespeare could be found mainly among the

1:37.4

superintendents of insane asylums.

1:39.7

Tell us who these people were.

1:41.8

The asylum superintendents were all medical doctors, but the profession of

1:47.3

medicine was not nearly as highly regulated as it is today. Many of the superintendents hadn't been

1:54.8

to medical school. Often you could join the ranks of medicine by apprenticing with another medical doctor.

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