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The Bakari Sellers Podcast

Shaka King and Akua Njeri on the Making of and History Behind 'Judas and the Black Messiah'

The Bakari Sellers Podcast

The Ringer

Politics, News

4.8966 Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Bakari is joined by Shaka King, the director of 'Judas and the Black Messiah,' and Akua Njeri, the fiancée of Fred Hampton (portrayed by Dominique Fishback in the movie), to talk about the challenges of getting this movie made (2:12), Njeri's role in advising the film (20:57), and why Ryan Coogler was essential to making this movie (26:29). Host: Bakari Sellers Guests: Shaka King and Akua Njeri Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:16.0

Thank you for joining us on another episode of the Bakari Cellars podcast. Today we'll be interviewing Shaka King the genius director of the critically acclaimed Before we get to Mama Koo and Shaka though, I wanted to talk about Miami Heat Center, Myers Leonard.

0:36.7

In case you missed it, well, playing the video game called a duty, Leonard called a fellow

0:40.8

player an anti-Semitic slur and to add insult to injury he says in a written apology he didn't know what the word meant at the time

0:48.2

So let's talk about trash apologies for a second the first question for me is if you didn't know what it meant when you

0:55.0

used it then why would you use it? I have a hard time believing that you didn't know it was offensive

0:59.5

when you used it because well if you listen to it it's clear he was just upset and he used it in a way that people tend to use that

1:06.9

term when they want to offend and mind you this is the same Myers Leonard who didn't

1:12.4

kneel in solidarity during the national anthem with his black teammates because of quote patriotism.

1:19.0

Now look, I don't think it's a coincidence that the guy who equates kneeling for the national anthem as an affront to the American flag and the military is also the guy casually throwing out anti-Semitic slurs while playing a video game.

1:31.0

And my hope is that folks who are rightly calling him out now connect the dots here

1:36.1

between his bad politics on BLM and police violence with anti-Semitism. Because in my experience,

1:42.4

all those bad politics often tend to reside in the same body.

1:46.0

Myers-Linnert is Exhibit A, that being shitty in one regard often translated into other spaces,

1:51.0

and I hope everyone who has the energy for him now

1:54.7

had the energy for him last year when he wouldn't kneel with his black teammates in the

1:59.0

wake of last summer's uprisings and that's that on that. Now on to our interview with Mama Kua and Shaka King.

2:10.0

Good morning and welcome to the Bakari Sellers podcast. Today is a great show. We have

2:18.9

Mother Akua and Shaka King on the episode with us today. We're going to dig into it. We're going

2:23.4

to talk about our history, what's going forward in this amazing piece of art that

2:28.0

they just put out. Shaka, I'm gonna start with you. We start all of our

2:31.6

listeners by all of our interviews by having our guests

2:35.3

walk us through the arc of their careers and I wanted to start the conversation with you

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