Welcome to Betrayal Trauma Recovery. This is Anne. I'm continuing my conversation with Tanya and it's a really hard conversation.

If you haven't heard the first part of her story, please go to last week's episode, listen there first, and then join us here.

I've been made aware in the last few weeks of our dear, dear sisters who are struggling, which is all of us, right?

Specifically, sisters who are struggling with losing their children in custody situations or legal situations that just seem so difficult.

So I want you to look forward to me interviewing a bunch of amazing women who have a lot to say about how to navigate

the legal system, which also comes up in this episode of the podcast.

I really think that God is trying to help us and as each of us are

praying for help. We also need to pray collectively for the help of all women and so

I invite you to pray with us. I pray morning and night and I'm going to talk more about this later

regarding the wheat and the tears. If you're not religious just perhaps a moment of

silence or something I don't know but if we can unite around the world to bring peace to the world and peace to individual homes, I think God would be proud of us.

And it's what he wants us to do.

He wants us to have peaceful homes and to bring peace.

Okay, so we're going to continue. Tony is just going to start. I was thinking it was because I was trying to destroy his life, I was trying to destroy his career,

I was trying to destroy his family,

family, but was because it was having an affair

behind my back with a woman inside of his jam.

And not just one, there was multiple.

And his family knew about it and they still blamed you.

His family knew about it because he doesn't just manipulate me. I feel like he manipulates his family.

I started to understand that he blames his mom for anything that he does.

If she doesn't help him with his needs, I think he threatens her. I'm not coming to visit you.

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