Sex & Politics #42
Savage Lovecast
Dan Savage
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Sex and Politics at Savage. Love. |
| 0:12.5 | Sex and politics. |
| 0:15.5 | Hey there, Micro Savage Lovecast listeners. |
| 0:18.3 | We wanted to share a little taste of sex and politics with you. |
| 0:22.3 | Sex and Politics is a bonus podcast. We produce every once in a while for our Magnum Subs. |
| 0:27.0 | Sex and Politics is just one of the perks for subs, along with more calls and guests on the |
| 0:31.4 | Lovecast, more questions, and Savage Love the column, and invites to Savage Love Live Zoom |
| 0:37.3 | Hangouts. In this installment of sex and |
| 0:40.4 | politics, I speak with author, activist, speaker, Matthew Vines. Vines was a student at Harvard in |
| 0:47.5 | 2012 when he took a leave of absence to study the Bible and homosexuality. He was an evangelical |
| 0:53.7 | Christian kid going to Harvard. |
| 0:56.1 | He went home to the church in Wichita, Kansas, where he had been raised, and gave a speech |
| 1:01.0 | to the congregation where he'd been raised about why the church should accept gay people |
| 1:06.0 | and accept gay relationships. |
| 1:08.8 | That went on to become a book called God and the gay Christian, the |
| 1:12.4 | biblical case in support of same-sex relationships. And Matthew went on to found the Reformation |
| 1:18.0 | Project, which works with evangelical Christian communities to help them get the fuck over their hatred |
| 1:24.1 | and fear of gay men and lesbians and bisexual people and our relationships. |
| 1:30.2 | When you look at trend lines among evangelical Christians, what you see over the last decade |
| 1:34.1 | and change is growing support for same-sex marriage, Matthew Vines can take a great share of the |
| 1:41.7 | credit for that growing support. |
| 1:47.1 | I invited Matthew to come on the show and talk. |
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