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God's love for us is the most wonderful, greatest gift each one of us can

receive and it might be uncomfortable to think about but your sex life in

marriage is also a gift and it's meant to reflect his love. I'm John Fuller with

Greg Smalley and his wife Aaron and they lead the focus on the family marriage

team. We're going to return now to a conversation that focused on the family

president Jim Daley and I had with Dr. Julie Slattery. In a previous episode

Dr. Slattery referred to the importance of covenant love. Julie it's great to

have you back. Thanks for having me. Always good to be with you. It's fun. It's

fun to catch up with you and Mike's in the audience so everything you say has

to be true. That's right. He's doing an audit. He's not up and down or back and

forth. But it's so much fun. Last time we talked about covenant love which is a

great reminder of what God intended. So for those that missed last time, why don't we

just start there? Quick recap on what covenant love is. So covenant love is best

contrasted to a contract which is how we usually think about marriage, how we

think about friendship. As long as this is working for me, we're good. If then

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