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If I say the word covenant, you hear me saying, and maybe it's H-O-A, or maybe

it's something else a little more legal. And I think there's a lot of

confusion about the word covenant. We're going to hear a little bit about

this when we unpack this episode. I'm John Fuller, along with Greg

Smully and his wife Aaron. And they lead the focus marriage team. And let me

ask Greg how you define covenant. Well, I literally did this a week ago. So our

oldest daughter Taylor got married. So I got to perform the wedding ceremony. And

actually what I said is we talked about what we're doing here. I talked about

the covenant of marriage between them and the Lord and really defined it. I

said that a covenant, this, this is a vow. This is a promise that you're

committed to each other for life. And it's in the essence of it to me is it's

exactly what God does for us. When he says, I'll never leave you nor forsake

you that I have loved you with an everlasting love, we can count on that. We

never have to worry if that's true or not. In the same way, that's what I was

encouraging them to really understand is right now you're looking at

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