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RSVP, visit Politico.com slash playbook elections Florida. Welcome to OffMessage. I'm Isaac Dover.

Of course, there are a lot of problems with our president, but I haven't heard anyone argue

that he's really there for the right reasons, that he is really trying to do the right

thing for the country. I mean, people, many people who voted for him say, oh, well, he's going

to shake things up or whatnot and try to upend the system. But I don't think anybody looks at our president and says,

oh, there's a model of selfless service.

Today's guest, Seth Moulton, a congressman from Massachusetts,

and the leader of an effort to get other veterans like him.

He was a captain in the Marines enlisted after graduating Harvard,

who served four tours of duty in Iraq, earning the bronze star along the way.

He's someone who's gotten democratic insiders all over the country talking about him in a way that doesn't quite

make sense for a guy who's only been in office since 2014 when he beat a long time incumbent

in a Democratic primary and then held the seat despite an intense race against a Republican.

You may know Moulton from leading a charge against Nancy Pelosi,

trying to topple her as leader,

or you may know him from some of the media speculation about his future that he's stoked,

from that and other moves, like taking a trip to Iowa last year.

I figured, let's hear it directly from the man himself,

since I asked him, as you'll hear, about all the different things that

his future could hold, and the only thing he ruled out was running for Pelosi's job himself.

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