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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Sesson 16: Pat Friman is Back!

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8648 Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2016

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Pat Friman returns to The Behavioral Observations Podcast in Session 16. In this episode, we talk about things that we as Behavior Analysts typically avoid, namely things like depression, anxiety, and stress. Specifically, he provides an overview of these concepts using, of course, a behavior-analytic lens. At the same time, Pat also notes that our particular professional jargon can be quite off-putting to some, and goes on to provide great advice for communicating effectively with lay-people. I could go on, but I'll simply say that I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I do. This session of the podcast is sponsored by bSci21.org's ABA Outside the Box CE series. Check it out at bSci21.org/ceus!

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the Behavioral Observations podcast with Matt Secoria, Session 16.

0:12.2

Welcome to the Behavioral Observations podcast, stimulating talk for today's behavior analysts.

0:19.5

Now here's your host, Matt Sequoria.

0:23.3

Hey everybody, it's Matt Secorio here coming back at you in session 16 of the Behavioral

0:27.4

Observations podcast. In this episode, Pat Freiman returns, and we talk about a variety of

0:32.8

challenging issues and or what I like to call grown-up problems. And the idea for this episode

0:39.8

stem from our conversation in the first interview we conducted in session 10. And I'm going to

0:47.5

play just a little snippet of some of the things that Pat had to say in an episode that

0:52.2

inspired me to ask him to return

0:54.4

and elaborate so hang on a second i'll tell you something about behavior analysts and when

1:00.2

they get in trouble with their life they don't go to a behavior analyst you know behavior

1:03.8

analysts get depressed behavior analysts get divorced behavior analysts get anxious behavior analysts have

1:10.2

trouble with their kids behavior analysts have trouble with their kids. Behavior analysts have trouble with their marriage.

1:13.6

And when they encounter real trouble in any of those domains,

1:16.6

they don't go to a behavior analyst for help.

1:19.6

And we're completely missing the boat on some very important areas of human experience.

1:24.6

You know, I'll tell you a quick story.

1:29.0

You know, I met someone at a conference and they were telling me that they had listened to

1:33.1

the first interview that I conducted with Pat.

1:36.3

And I said, well, if you liked that one, we did a second interview and it's awesome because

1:41.7

we talk about depression and anxiety.

1:46.1

And then after kind of, or as I was about halfway through that sentence i realized the absurdity of it or at least the way which

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