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🗓️ 17 September 2025
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When it comes to marginalized intersectional identities, Black women and women of color are no stranger. But if we zoom out, what does that experience look like across systems, access, and paychecks? Today we're excited to be joined by economist, advocate, and author Anna Gifty. She’s here to talk about her new book, ‘The Double Tax: How Women of Color Are Overcharged and Underpaid,’ a powerful, data-driven exploration of the hidden costs of being both a woman and a racial minority in today’s economy. During this conversation, we dive into the concept of the “double tax,” the systemic forces that undervalue women of color, and what it means to work towards an economy that truly works for everyone.
About the Podcast
The Therapy for Black Girls Podcast is a weekly conversation with Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, a licensed Psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia, about all things mental health, personal development, and all the small decisions we can make to become the best possible versions of ourselves.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, a weekly conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small decisions we can make to become the best possible versions of ourselves. |
| 0:23.8 | I'm your host, Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. |
| 0:30.0 | For more information or to find a therapist in your area, visit our website at Therapy for Blackgirls.com. While I hope you love listening to |
| 0:40.4 | and learning from the podcast, it is not meant to be a substitute for a relationship with a licensed |
| 0:47.1 | mental health professional. |
| 0:56.4 | Hey, y'all. |
| 1:00.4 | Thanks so much for joining me for session 429 of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. |
| 1:01.9 | We'll get right into our conversation after a word from our sponsors. |
| 1:09.2 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 1:18.0 | When it comes to marginalized intersectional identities, black women and women of color are no stranger. |
| 1:24.3 | But if we zoom out, what does that experience look like across systems, access, |
| 1:28.8 | and paychecks? Today, I'm pleased to be joined by economists, advocate, and author, Anna Gifty. |
| 1:35.9 | She's here to talk about her new book, The Double Tax, how women of color are overcharged and |
| 1:40.9 | underpaid, a powerful data-driven exploration of the hidden cause of being both a |
| 1:45.7 | woman and a racial minority in today's economy. During our conversation, we dive into the concept |
| 1:52.2 | of the double tax, the systemic forces that undervalue women of color, and what it means to |
| 1:57.8 | work towards an economy that truly works for everyone. |
| 2:03.9 | If something resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, |
| 2:08.3 | please share with us on social media using the hashtag TBGN session. |
| 2:12.2 | Or join us over in our Patreon channel to talk more about the episode. |
| 2:15.9 | You can join us at community.therapyfor blackgirls.com. |
| 2:17.6 | Here's our conversation. |
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