September 7, 2014 — Benjamin Radford

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🗓️ 7 September 2014

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

Gene and Chris once again switch gears, as we announce the return of everyone's favorite "good natured" skeptic, Benjamin Radford. During his last visit to The Paracast (April 17, 2011 — Benjamin Radford), we talked about his excellent book Tracking the Chupacabra. This time around we'll be discussing his latest book, Mysterious New Mexico: Miracles, Magic, and Monsters in the Land of Enchantment. We all know that New Mexico is the "Land of Enchantment," but what does Ben really think? Inquiring minds, like yours, will find out as we focus on all sorts of strange legends about possible unusual events, including the alleged Aztec, NM UFO crash.

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0:00.0	You're in the Paracast.
0:10.0	You're in the Paracast the gold standard of paranormal radio and now here's jean steinberg what a difference a week makes so
0:35.4	one week we have robert schaefer basically saying that if you saw a UFO, you're mistaken, or maybe you're a liar.
0:42.1	You're a liar.
0:42.9	Right.
0:43.5	You know, and even then he kind of disputed the extent of the lying.
0:47.5	So Micah Hanks was supposedly told by him that a lot of these people are liars.
0:52.4	And he said, no, no, no.
0:53.5	Well, maybe some aren't.
0:54.8	But there you go. That's eyewitness testimony for you. You can't trust it. And then we get
0:59.4	a real class act, Chris Rutkowski. This is a scientist. He's done 25 years of UFO research
1:09.5	capped into this document with he and his colleagues, explore
1:13.3	15,000 UFO cases.
1:16.2	Very careful about witness testimony, and we noticed that the vast, vast majority of those
1:22.8	stories were rejected as something conventional early on.
1:27.6	And the stuff that passed muster has got to be really good.
1:31.5	Yeah.
1:32.0	But I don't think it was 14,000 some odd hundred people that were lying.
1:38.3	Right.
1:38.9	All I want to do, ladies and gentlemen, is to fabricate a UFO sighting.
1:43.0	My life depends on fabricating a UFO sighting. My life depends on fabricating a UFO
1:45.8	sighting. I tried, Gene. I tried. Unfortunately, my sense of duty and honesty, I called it
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