My first elk came out of the vaiy doll, which is both lucky and unlucky. It's lucky in the sense that you only get one bull permit in that place in your life.

So I'll never have that hunt again.

But what an incredible place to learn to Elkhunt and to be exposed to that.

Man.

And it got me hooked my dad brought home a tarantula one time I came home and there was a there

was a fish bowl on the table with a note that said Martin here's a tarantula for you.

Yeah.

And I called him up and I said hey there's no there's no tarantula in that hole.

And he said you find that spider before your mother gets home for work or we're bull sunk.

There are fewer and fewer people on either side of the aisle who approach especially the sportsman tradition

with firsthand knowledge. So then it becomes just another esoteric thing to

debate about this constituency or that constituency or this

ideology or that ideology.

And I just find it is so much easier to find real solutions to management challenges when you can get out on the ground

and get some of the dogma of DC out of the way. And that's going to be really hard to do that if we don't

have people who have first-hand knowledge of hunting and fishing on these public spaces.

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Thank you.

Hello, welcome back.

This is Hal Herring at Backcountry Hunters and Anglers

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