Well, how nice is it, like where we live? We literally walk out our backyard, walk, you know, 150 yards

and we're on Forest Service.

Black Hills, and we can just go hike.

I mean, how awesome is that in America that you have those opportunities?

It's people who know what's at stake like y'all who are out there hunting and fishing all

time that are really the most valuable

asset in this because everybody else is one step removed.

And I just advocate to people who don't necessarily hunt a fish or maybe don't even

understand it they don't mind it they don't care about it right I always try to

relate it to those people like in some way in some way it'll

affect you eventually if you don't notice it right away you'll be driving down the

road planning on a gas station to be there in a small community and be like well we'll stop here

and then it's closed.

And we could make better choices on that and where we put our tax money and you'd have better outcomes. It's like hell man it ain't

it ain't really a some kind of thing organic. It's a it's caused by a system of

choices and you can make other choices and have a different and better outcome.

And I think that's what we're talking about right here.

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Thank you. Hello welcome back. This is Hal Herring, backcountry hunters and anglers podcast and blast.

I am in South Dakota, a town called Desmit.

We're in a motel there, and we've been Snow Goose hunting

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