Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bullock, and I am joined by Senator Tim Kane, the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. I got that right this time.

We're here to talk about what's happening in Iran and the effort to pass a war powers resolution.

Senator, thanks for doing this. I really appreciate it. You and I've had this conversation a couple times throughout your time in public

office because you're a champion of actual congressional input into acts of war. Yes. It appears yet

again that Congress is going to skirt the idea of voting on what is clearly an act of war by Pete Hexas' own a mission.

Why should we feel any different or any more confident that a war powers resolution would

pass this go-around? And how do you keep banging this drum knowing that it's likely to have

been met by defeat? Sam, so a couple of things. When I became senator in 2013, I came out of

an experience where I'd been governor and had watched thousands of my National Guard troops

deploy into Iraq and Afghanistan. And I went to deployments and I went to homecomings and I went to

wakes and funerals. And I just vowed when I became a senator that I would do everything I can to make sure we didn't go into war,

except for a really good reason after a congressional debate and vote,

and that we should do everything possible to avoid stupid wars.

And my advocacy around this, I may or may not be successful. I haven't yet been

successful in this. I've been at it for 13 years, whether it's a Democrat or Republican president,

I hold them to the constitutional standard. I feel like I'm duty bound to do it by my oath,

but also by my connection to our troops. As you know, Virginia,

very military heavy state, very pro-military. I got a kid in the, in the armed services. And so I

just believe there shouldn't be an easy pass lane or a shortcut on going to war. In this particular

case, we have a war powers resolution. As you point out, it's a privileged motion that the statute gives us to challenge a president who has taken the nation into hostilities without a congressional authorization.

In that circumstance, a president has initiated hostilities without Congress. You can force a vote on the floor of the Senate. That's what I'm doing

together with my Republican colleague Rand Paul. That vote will be tomorrow. And it's a simple

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