Hi, I'm Amy Britton, and I'm an investigative reporter.

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I'm Jonathan Cape Heart and this is Cape Up.

Senator Chris Coons of Delaware and I had a lot to talk about.

He was at the presidential debate in Cleveland, an event he called the worst thing he's seen

in more than 20 years in politics.

He sits on the Judiciary Committee, which will consider the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Amy

Coney Barrett, a person he says poses a grave danger to precedence.

Coon sits on the Foreign Relations Committee, which puts him in touch with

America's allies who are worried, and adversaries who seem emboldened.

And when it comes to America, who we are as a people and a nation, Coons believes that

Senator John McCain and Congressman John Lewis left us with an urgent message that he hopes we heed.

Don't let it end this way.

Hear it all right now.

Senator Chris Coons, welcome back to the podcast.

Great to be on with you again, Jonathan.

Let's start with the debate between President Trump and Vice President Biden in Cleveland, you were there in preparation for a column that I wrote about

the debate. I was looking for pictures. I saw a picture in our system of you sitting in the audience in a mask and the look on your face even in the

mask told a story. Talk about what it was like being at that debate and also given what we know now what was it like being at the

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