Hey, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonia Dodge. One of the conversations that Joel and I have been having a lot recently is around the subject of sovereignty.

So sovereignty is essentially the ability to self-govern and I think that what many of us are missing when we don't feel

empowered in our lives is a sense of sovereignty.

We don't feel permission or we believe other people are taking our sovereignty from us.

Maybe we feel like our circumstances don't allow us to be self-governing, but we wanted to have a bit of a conversation around this concept of sovereignty because I think that we are socialized to see this, maybe even the opposite of how it actually works.

Yeah, there's a story from my childhood. you say this I think about this story

My grandparents had like this little space in their basement when I was a kid where there was like a little bathroom a showering area off the side of their basement.

And I remember being about, I was probably eight or nine years old, and my grandfather needed,

I think it was me and my brother were staying at his house and my two girl cousins who were about two years younger than me.

They were probably six or seven at the time. They were at the house also there in the basement and my grandfather I was taught you know growing up you

respect your elders and who's telling you what to do you basically listen to what

they say and you you follow direction right so my grandfather says

Joel Jason you know me and my brother's names,

it's time to get ready for bed.

I need both of you to showers.

And Joel, you're up first, so I need you get a shower.

I need you do it right now.

And my girl cousins were kind of in the

basement with us as we're like in this area and he's like please do that now.

There was like really no changing area and he didn't like secure the parameter. I

was like eight and I didn't know I had the permission to ask

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