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Religion on the Mind

Self-aware Christianity with Tim Burnette (#383)

Religion on the Mind

Religion on the Mind

Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Spirituality

4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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In this episode, I sit down with Tim Burnette — founder of The Way Collective in Santa Barbara — to explore what it looks like to build a psychologically astute, contemplative Christianity for our fractured moment. We dig into the inner critic, anxiety, and how therapeutic practices like IFS, CBT, and acceptance and commitment therapy share a surprisingly deep resonance with contemplative traditions around the true self and nonviolence. Tim shares his own journey through panic attacks and cancer scares, and we trace how learning to attend to anxious thoughts — rather than fight or flee from them — might just be both good therapy and good spirituality.  If you've ever wondered whether your therapist and your mystic are secretly after the same thing, this one's for you. ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/dancoke/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Or Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/DanKoch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Faith deconstruction resources: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.soyouredeconstructing.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/dankoch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YHP Patron-only FB group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join Dan's email list: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.dankochwords.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Artwork by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nickryanluevano.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:17.0

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0:22.6

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0:25.6

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0:33.6

Welcome back everybody to Religion on the Mind, the podcast at the intersection of psychology,

0:45.4

religion and spirituality.

0:47.6

I'm your host, Dr. Dan Koch, licensed therapist.

0:50.6

Today, we were just doing shirt brother jokes about being height brothers, kind of mid, mid six foot.

1:00.5

It's like you're mid 40s, but you're sort of between six three and six nine is the mid sixes.

1:07.3

Tim, hi. Hey, Dan. It's good to see you. Hi, brother.

1:13.4

Tim Burnett, that's a, I think you should leave reference, by the way, if you didn't get it.

1:14.1

Tim Burnett is the founder of the Way Collective in Santa Barbara. We're going to be talking about his community there a lot today. Got his doctorate at Claremont in the School of Theology. So he's kind of like a process guy, along with your Trip Fullers, your Phil Clayton's, your Tom Ords, these folks who are mainstays, your Mason Menningas mainstays of the podcast.

1:35.8

If you will.

1:36.7

I want to sort of lay out what the episode's going to do because I think there is a possibility for additional episodes along these, along this road.

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