Sejal Zota on ICE Tracking Technologies

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🗓️ 9 May 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Many individuals seeking asylum or other forms of immigration relief in the U.S. are subject to a program run by Immigration Customs Enforcement, or ICE, called the Intensive Supervision Appearance Program, which uses various kinds of tracking technologies as a way of keeping tabs on individuals who are not detained in ICE custody

Stephanie Pell sat down with Sejal Zota, legal director of Just Futures Law, to talk about this program and the kinds of tracking technologies it employees. They discussed what is publicly known about these technologies, the privacy concerns associated with them, as well as some of the harms experienced by individuals who are subjected to the surveillance. Not withstanding these concerns, they also discussed whether the Intensive Supervision Appearance Program is a reasonable alternative to ICE detention, considering ICE’s need to keep track of individuals who are both seeking immigration relief and who may be ordered removed from the U.S. if that relief is not granted.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:34.3	And we categorically reject the use of technologies to monitor member communities.
0:39.8	And I think that this trend presents some real questions for us as a society.
0:46.7	Do we want to be a society that allows cameras in our homes?
0:51.2	Do we want to allow the police to listen in on our calls?
0:56.0	What do our constitutional rights mean to us?
0:58.8	Because over time, I am more and more of our systems who will incorporate this surveillance.
1:03.3	Right?
1:04.3	I mean, we've seen it start with tax finance, but it's really a slippery slope.
1:11.7	I'm Stephanie Pell and this is the LawFair podcast, May 9, 2022.
1:17.3	Many individuals seeking asylum or other forms of immigration relief in the US are subject
1:22.8	to a program run by immigration customs enforcement or ICE called the intensive supervision
1:29.6	appearance program, which uses various kinds of tracking technologies as a way of keeping
1:35.5	tabs on individuals who are not detained in ICE custody.
1:40.5	I sat down with Sajal Zota, legal director of just futures law, to talk about this program
1:47.0	and the kinds of tracking technologies it employs.
1:50.5	We discussed what is publicly known about these technologies, the privacy concerns associated
1:55.7	with them, as well as some of the harms experienced by individuals who are subject to the surveillance.
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