Lawfare’s Research on Trusting Technology

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🗓️ 10 May 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Modern life relies on digital technology, but with that reliance comes vulnerability. How can we trust our technology? How can we be sure that it does what we expect it to do? Earlier this month, Lawfare released the results of a long-term research project on those very questions. The report, prepared by the Lawfare Institute’s Trusted Hardware and Software Working Group, is titled, “Creating a Framework for Supply Chain Trust in Hardware and Software.” On a recent Lawfare Live, Alan Rozenshtein spoke with three members of the team that wrote the piece: Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes; Lawfare contributing editor Paul Rosenzweig, who served as the report’s chief drafter; and Justin Sherman, a fellow at the Atlantic Council.

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0:00.0	The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair
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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:34.1	How do you demonstrate technical trustworthiness?
0:37.9	You demonstrate it with transparency, accountability and independence of our evaluation.
0:44.2	How do you demonstrate corporate governance with transparency, accountability, and independence
0:49.2	evaluation?
0:50.2	It's the same with governments in a way, though there's less accountability there.
0:56.3	So the three ideas are transparency.
1:00.1	If I know what you're doing and can see what you're doing pretty darn well, that enhances
1:05.8	my trust.
1:07.8	It's not perfect because of course we all know about magicians who are completely transparent
1:12.3	but you still can't figure out how they pound the card.
1:15.8	But corporations are not magicians.
1:20.6	If they're open about their developmental processes, they're open about other governance
1:24.3	processes, that's a plus.
1:27.3	But all the transparency in the world without accountability is really just voyeurism.
1:34.3	I'm Alan Rosenstein and this is the LawFair podcast, May 10, 2022.
1:42.3	LawFair and Life relies on digital technology, but with that, reliance comes vulnerability.
1:47.6	How can we trust our technology?
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