This is the Tom Hartman program.

So can the grifters be stopped?

You know, there's a lot going on, but I wanted to start out just asking the question do you

think they're going to get away with it? You know I really think this is like the

question of the day or of the year or of the month or something, are these grifters in the Trump administration

going to get away with this? I mean, you know, well, let me lay it out. Trump and Fox News and the nation's billionaires I was interested to hear this morning

on NPR they actually did a story about how these open the country movements are actually basically being run by people from Freedom Works or

affiliated with Freedom Works.

You know, the Koch brothers right-wing group that did the Tea Party, you know, the

anti-obomacare TV.

No, we don't want no stinking health care.

Now it's, yes, we want to die from the coronavirus. It's like, okay, so they're all working together and

they're making, in my my opinion a huge bet. You know back in 2000 when

Mike Pence was writing op-eds for his local newspapers in Indiana when he was

a talk show host and actually it might have been when he was

a congressman whatever it was in 2000 he was writing up ed saying tobacco doesn't

cause cancer of course his family owned a series of fast food stores called Tobacco Row that have since gone out of business.

It was Mike Pence of course.

But anyhow, he was telling people in Indiana, tobacco doesn't cause cancer, don't worry, be happy,

go ahead and smoke, or worse to that effect.

And you know, he was never held responsible for that, even though thousands of people probably

in Indiana died as a result of his advice.

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