It is so bad of the misinformation that is given to the American people because the established order thinks that's the way it should be.

He is the former White House Chief Strategist to Donald Trump and former Executive Chairman of Breitbart News.

Yes, I'm talking about Steve Bannon.

Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast, where you'll find extended versions of the interviews from my show on public television.

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Obama was Athens.

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Thank you. Thanks for having.

Last time you and I talked, we talked a fair amount about impeachment.

Yes.

And you at that point said that Nancy Pelosi was teaching a master class.

Yeah.

Now it's almost concluded, how do you think she's on?

See, I disagree with the president on this. I do think she has done this. And here's why.

She realizes, I think, the Democratic field is so weak from a personality point of view. There's no real star wattage.

She also, I think, realizes the policies, the Democratic Party has been driven pretty far left

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