It's very hard to say that the Palestinian people are victims. If they're victims of anything,

it's of having bad leadership.

How good is a 39-year-old former real estate guy from Jersey in brokering peace in the Middle East?

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Jared Kushner, senior advisor to President Trump, and architect of this peace plan. Good to see you, Jared.

Good to be with you.

So jump right in in terms of we had Beni Gantz, we had NatNiHu, not on the stage with Trump.

They are prepared to support 100% this deal that you have been working on.

Wasn't a Palestinian, of course, within official representative within like a thousand miles.

One could argue it's a lot easier to come up with a plan if you're only talking to the Israelis and not the Palestinians.

Fair?

Yes and no. I mean, I think that it was very, very hard to get the Israelis to agree to Palestinians? Fair? Yes and no.

I mean, I think that it was very, very hard to get the Israelis to agree to several things

that they've never agreed to even discuss before.

Look, this process-

What was hardest in the process?

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