Seeing (and Loving) the Divine in The Everyday with Carrie Newcomer
Learning How to See with Brian McLaren
Center for Action and Contemplation
4.8 • 748 Ratings
🗓️ 22 May 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. |
| 0:04.0 | To learn more, visit cac.org. |
| 0:11.4 | Hi, everyone. Welcome. I'm Carmen Acevedo Butcher, and we're thankful you're here at learning how to see. |
| 0:20.0 | We're so glad because today Brian and I are speaking |
| 0:23.8 | with the musician and poet Carrie Newcomer, and she brings up and into the room all of the wonders |
| 0:31.4 | of music, which started me thinking. A good 3,000 years ago now, young David, future king, as we read in |
| 0:40.4 | 1 Samuel, did what amounts to what we call today music therapy within King Saul, who, as we hear |
| 0:47.9 | in the message translation, experienced the spirit of God leaving him, and in its place came awful tormenting depression. |
| 0:57.4 | Saul's advisors went looking for a musician. David was found and came to play the harp to |
| 1:04.0 | tormented Saul. And we read that David's music calmed Saul down, and he felt better as his depressed mood lifted. |
| 1:15.8 | We also appreciate the Hebrew scriptures wise, enduring Psalms that are an integral part of any old or new monastics diet. |
| 1:26.1 | Thomas Merton, in fact, called the Psalms, |
| 1:28.3 | bred in the wilderness in a book by that title, because he says they provide |
| 1:33.3 | nourishment for the interior life. The power of music then is nothing new, |
| 1:40.3 | and you're going to experience it today in learning how to see. For me, my name |
| 1:46.3 | Carmen means song or poem, even incantation. The plural of Carmen, the word, is carmina. Ordinary |
| 1:55.4 | singing or chanting is one of my daily practices for many decades now in all kinds of interior weather, |
| 2:03.6 | sunny, cloudy, serene, stormy. Singing somehow grew for me out of severe childhood trauma |
| 2:12.5 | from my father and from deep kindness from my mother who loves to sing. I gravitated to hymns at church, |
| 2:22.7 | songs at school on the radio, and ones I would make up as poems, and then sing. I never quit |
| 2:29.9 | doing this somehow. Singing has helped me express gratitude and celebrate the wonder of everyday blue |
| 2:37.9 | skies or rainy clouds or soaring crows, egrits, turkey vultures, also the Appalachian Mountains of my |
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