Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast Inside Rail. I am sitting this morning with Nina

Taisholz, who many of you will not have heard of for an interesting reason. Before I get to

telling you who she is, let me just say, Nina, welcome to the podcast. Thank you. I'm really happy to be here.

All right.

So, Nina, you are, in many ways, the OG of the consciousness that is dawning on so many of us about the upside down nature of the food health advice that we have been

given over our entire adult lives and that our parents were given when we were children.

In some ways, you suffer, I think, from the fact that you were so early that the title wave that you are largely responsible for triggering is not understood by many people to have anything to do with you.

You published a book called, is it the Big Fat Surprise?

The Big Fat Surprise, which is a New York Times bestseller back in 2014. Am I right about the date?

There's the book.

Yep.

All right. And you covered many of the issues that are now on so many of our minds, including

things like seed oils and highly processed foods.

So what we're going to do is we are going to delve into your knowledge base and talk

about these issues.

I should probably say you have a PhD in nutrition science from the University of Reading.

University of Reading in England.

There are other Redding.

There's a Reading, Pennsylvania.

There's a Reading, California. But you got your degree from the University of Reading in England. There are other Redding. There's a Redding, Pennsylvania, there's a Redding,

California, but you got your degree from the University of Reading in England. And in any case,

I find your story fascinating. We met at a Brownstone event, and I, with some degree of shame,

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