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Maintenance Phase

Seed Oils

Maintenance Phase

Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

History, Science, Health, Health & Fitness, Wellness, Education

4.816.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Why are you, as a man, afraid of sunflowers. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! The O6-O3 ratio: A critical appraisalSeed Oils: Are They Actually Toxic?No need to avoid healthy omega-6 fatsOmega-6 Fatty Acids and Risk for Cardiovascular DiseaseDo Seed Oils Make You Sick?Seed oils: Are they healthy or harmful?ToxGuide: HexaneDietary linoleic acid intake and bl...

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0:00.0

Dude, it took me so long to figure out that record days are, your work day is the record.

0:17.2

You're like one of those influencers who's like, do you know how hard it is to be an influencer?

0:25.7

You know how hard my job is? I am going to show you my morning routine featuring Saratoga Water. I do crunches while I return business texts on my Apple Watch. Dude, are you

0:33.6

familiar with the weird TikToks where they debunk the morning routines? No, what? They'll have, you know, titles on the screen. They'll be like 537 waking up. And then people will like stitch in and they'll be like, actually in Dallas at 530, the sun is not in that position. It's actually more like 7.30. Dude, you and I have talked about, I think we have a shared value around not letting the show just become a dunk fest, right? But like, man, if we didn't, I would do such a fucking episode on those goddamn morning. Just like, what's on TikTok this week? Sucks on TikTok today. I would do that so there's so many people on TikTok who suck. All right. Tag it. Tag it. Tag it. What do you have? What are you going to rhyme with seed oils? I was going to come up with the, I don't know what, weed boils. I don't know. What? Do you want me to sit in silence and let you workshop out? Creed soils. Creed soils.

1:28.1

Start singing a creed song.

1:30.3

Hi, everybody, and welcome to maintenance phase.

1:32.3

The podcast where they tried to bury us, but they didn't know we were seed oils.

1:38.7

That's terrible.

1:40.1

What's that even from?

1:41.4

You try to bury us and then we grow.

1:43.5

We're here. We're seeds. Get used to it. Is this from your political organizing days? I'm Aubrey Gordon. I'm Michael Hump. If you would like to support the show, you can do that at patreon.com slash maintenance face. You can also subscribe on Apple Podcast. It's the same audio content. My stuff.

2:02.4

Aubrey, what are we talking about today?

2:04.4

We're talking about seed oils.

2:06.1

You're talking to me about seed oils and I'm so excited because you and I've been making

2:11.9

the show for long enough and have been talking about far right wellness grifters long enough, that seed oil has just

2:19.8

come up. It's something that like Tucker Carlson has touched on. Pete Evans has talked about.

2:25.3

Yes.

2:25.6

It's popped up a bunch of times, but I've never done like the in-depth fact check.

2:30.8

I was going to say we have never done such an Avengers Endgame ass episode. this. This is the thing I'm fascinated about is like, what is the origin story of the seed oil stuff? And like, who started it and why did so many people pick it up? I have noticed when I've told people like, oh, I'm researching an episode about seed oils. Three quarters of my friends are like, oh, thank fucking God. Like, what is this garbage? But then like one quarter of my friends are like,

2:53.7

what do you mean seed oils? Just for like the people who are like blessedly offline,

2:58.7

we should give like a little overview of this panic. For the people who don't know who Kendra,

3:03.7

who fell in love with her psychiatrist is?

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