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So I'm Gregor Vand and with me is Sean Falconer. Say, hey, Sean. Hey there. Good to be back. How are you doing, Greg? Yeah. Yeah, good, good. So what's been going on over, I guess. I always lose track of months these days. So you're September, Sean. How was your September? I was on the roto bunch, so I was gone to Europe for 10 days. I did five cities in Europe for work. A lot of speaking. Customer engagement was fun, but it was very, very exhausting. So I'm glad to be back in the US for a little bit. But I do leave again for Europe next weekend. So I'm in like kind of my heavy travel schedule for the year. So I'm just trying

to survive at the moment. Yeah. Well, we managed to catch you flying in for this episode. So that's much appreciated. Yeah, on my side, yeah, it's just been, I guess, sort of ramping back up month and obviously conferences, et cetera, starting to tick back in. I mean, this week in Singapore is what's called token week. I have

nothing to do with crypto or tokens. So it's a bit of a strange week when a bunch of people that

look different, shall we say, to the usual Singapore population descend on the city. But I went to a

sort of enterprise. I wouldn't say the company, but I went to sort of like an enterprise,

AI conference. And certainly I think reception was quite muted, I would say. They were really

pushing their agents. They have special name for those agents, but if I say the name,

then you'll know the company. So they were pushing their agents and really trying to sort of

bring up their customers on stage to talk about what they've been doing with them, which just wasn't a great reception. We're talking sort of some quite basic RPA type things. So it was certainly interesting. And I do think that's maybe just over this side of the world. We're not quite pushing out the that said, it's an American company. Again, I won't say which one, but it was an American company. I'm just not sure if that's sort of the level we can be expecting of agentic conferences right now. Yeah, do you think based on your experience that, at least the part of Asia that you live in, is maybe a little bit behind the United States or other parts of the world when it comes to AI adoption? I certainly noticed that, at least in parts of the Europe that I was in, you know, I ran kind of a lunch in there for

executives. And I started by asking everybody in the room, which companies were actively

building something in AI right now, even if just POCs and demos, and not a single person raised

a hand, which is quite a contrast from my experiences in the U.S. They're all very interested in this topic, but it felt like they were a little bit slower in the adoption curve. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's probably a fair assessment. I mean, obviously, yeah, where you're based, San Francisco in the valley, for sure. That has to be pretty much the place it's getting adopted first, certainly for where I look and sit.

Over here, yeah, I think it's just there's still inertia and I think people are still sort of in the

businesses that are like, if I think of the customers that came on stage at that conference,

let's just say like big shipping companies or something to that effect. I think there's still just a bit

of inertia around well, why should we change our ways of doing things just so that the CIO can say

that they've cut costs. And I think that was the big theme of that conference was that CIO's saying

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