Modern software systems are composed of many independent microservices, spanning front-ends,

back-ends, APIs, and AI models, and coordinating and scaling them reliably is a constant challenge.

A workflow orchestration platform addresses this by providing a structured framework to define,

execute, and monitor complex workflows with resilience and clarity.

Orcas is an enterprise-scale agenetic orchestration platform that builds on the open-source conductor

project, which was pioneered at Netflix. The platform coordinates AI agents, humans, and APIs,

with the focus on scalability, compliance, and trust.

It further expands on the conductor core by adding features like security, governance, and long-running

workflows. Viran Berea is the founder and CTO at Orcas, and he's the creator of Netflix conductor. Vran joins the show

with Gregor Van to talk about his building conductor at Netflix, the challenge of orchestrating

microservices, rule-based versus programmatic workflow orchestration, agentic orchestration,

MCP integration, and much more.

Gregor Vand is a security-focused technologist, having previously been a CTO across cybersecurity,

cyber insurance, and general software engineering companies.

He is based in Singapore and can be found via his profile at van.hk or on LinkedIn.

Hello and welcome to Software Engineering Daily. My guest today is Verraine Barreya from Arcus. So we're going to be talking all about what Arcus does and especially Orcus conductor. And some of you may already know the word conductor from some other companies and we're going to be talking about that. But yeah, welcome Verraine. Thanks Gregor for having me here and I'm very excited to be here.

Yeah.

So as we do on this podcast tradition, we just like to kind of get an understanding of your

background.

We've definitely worked at quite a few interesting companies that I think our audience will be

fairly familiar with.

But yeah, just walk us through.

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