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Guaranteed Human.

And we continue with our American stories.

Randall Wallace is the writer and or director of films such as Braveheart. We were

soldiers, The Man in the Iron Mask, Heaven is for Real, Pearl Harbor, and Secretariat. Here he is to

share the story of Penny Chenery, owner of the 1973 Triple Crown winner, and we're of course

talking about that thoroughbred,

that aforementioned thoroughbred, Secretariat.

Let's take a listen.

Penny Chenery was the owner of Secretariat,

and I have made a number of films that I've had the incredible blessing

of getting to know the actual human beings that live the story.

And Penny Chinnery and Secretariat are great examples.

Also, the family that Heaven is for real is about the Burpo family.

I've gotten to know them as well.

Penny Chinnery was a remarkable woman.

Now what drew the studio and others to the tale of Secretariat was obviously the achievements

of the horse, but you can't scratch the surface of that story without coming full face

into penny chenery.

She was a mother of five and basically a housewife whose father had loved horses.

They owned a horse breeding farm in Virginia, and it wasn't the kind of Lexington, Kentucky,

gorgeous, picturesque, almost Norman Rockwell kind of horse farm. It was a hard scrabble place that they

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