Income inequality and revolution. Who knew Dr. Ian K. Smith had all of that smoke. He was here to talk about eating clean and lean, and we ended up getting into this whole disparity in this country

and where we're going if we don't fix it and it was an amazing conversation so i said let me make

this into a podcast i hope you enjoy stay tuned so in addition to doing these books blackbird papers

which was amazing you said it was amazing oh my god so then when this one came out, it was floating around here.

You were supposed to come on, didn't.

So I was like, I'm, you know.

That's true. That's true. No, no, no, it was just a bad schedule, but you know I love you. But I called you though, because I'm like, this book. So it's about, you know, secret societies, you know, skull and bones and all this.

Now, Dr. Ian did go to Harvard.

So my question is, as I'm reading all of these secrets, hmm, as I'm reading everything, I'm thinking about. Is this modeled after like Black Bullets or? No, no, no. No, this is the white people secret society. You know, the big one, you know, the one you know with the presidents you know like

Obama in them you know I'm saying and George Washington were you a member sir is

this a semi autobiographical I am very upfront that this is based very tightly on my

experiences in one of Harvard's final clubs, we call them.

It's a secret decided they call it final clubs.

And the reason they called that was because the final clubs were, there were different types

of clubs at Harvard.

The final club was the pyramid at the top of the pyramid.

It was the ultimate club.

And my club, in particular the Delphit Club was started by J.P. Morgan Jr. of J.P. Morgan Chase back in the late 1800s. And these clubs have had the who's who of the world as members. We're talking presidents, Supreme Court justices, Fortune 500 CEOs, everybody. And for some reason, I still don't know to this day, they invited me to join the nominating process or fraternies would say hazing process.

And we call it the punch. They punched me to be in the punch where you have to go to these series of dinners and cocktail parties and meet alums and it's very fancy stuff. And just for the record, so people understand this, yes, I went to Harvard. I was a kid from a working class family. In Chicago. Well, I'm from Connecticut, though the character's from Chicago. Right. But I'm from Connecticut. I didn't have a dad. I just had a single mom. So we had no connections. We had no money.

And so people say, well, yeah, well, he's, you know, no, I'm not the classical club type

guy, which is why it was confusing that these clubs wanted me to join them.

And it was a very interesting experience.

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