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Secret Power: WikiLeaks and its Enemies / Stefania Maurizi

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4.9937 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Stefania Maurizi is an investigative journalist currently contributing to the major Italian daily Il Fatto Quotidiano after working for the last 14 years for la Repubblica, consistently rated among the top two Italian newspapers, and for the italian newsmagezine l’Espresso. She has worked with Julian Assange and his organization WikiLeaks since 2009, teaming up with large teams of international media to cover and investigate all WikiLeaks' secret documents Stefania speaks with host Chuck Mertz about her book "Secret Power: WikiLeaks and Its Enemies" recently published by Pluto Press. This episode also features new responses to the Question from Hell and this week in Rotten History. https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745347615/secret-power/ https://stefaniamaurizi.it/en-idx.html https://twitter.com/SMaurizi www.fattoquotidiano.it twitter.com/fattoquotidian www.repubblica.it twitter.com/repubblica

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0:00.0

Bali, money, money, money, money, money,

0:05.0

money, money, money,

0:07.0

that is the

0:07.0

The Pick a jackie, jack! You're welcome to yol.

0:15.0

You're welcome to help.

0:17.0

Aie.

0:18.0

Aie,

0:20.0

Aie man! This is not democracy not now or ever.

0:46.1

This is hell and more than ever the lack of democracy in not only the US, but throughout Europe and the so-called

0:55.0

Western democracies, is being revealed.

0:58.4

And we can thank WikiLeaks and Julian Assange for many of those revelations.

1:02.8

But revealing such secrets is a direct challenge

1:05.2

to what our guest today calls the secret power

1:09.2

of the secret state, the state controlled

1:11.5

by the military, industrial industrial and intelligence complexes as well as many other powerful economic interests

1:17.3

Therefore any state secrets of crime and corruption are seen as direct challenges to the power of those interests.

1:25.2

The state has reacted by persecuting Assange, a persecution that our guest today calls torture,

1:32.0

all for revealing the truth about, among other things, war crimes, torture,

1:36.6

and global surveillance systems.

1:39.0

For revealing the brutality and cruelty

1:45.0

from the state.

1:46.0

So you'd think the press would come rush to his defense with complete support.

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