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Before Breakfast

Second Cup: Clean for yourself

Before Breakfast

iHeartPodcasts

Self-improvement, Education

4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2026

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Maintaining a functional home is about being kind to your future self

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human.

0:08.0

Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of IHeart Radio.

0:13.3

Good morning. This is Laura.

0:17.6

Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast.

0:21.1

Today's tip is to clean for yourself.

0:25.7

Think of cleaning as an act of kindness to your future self,

0:29.9

because it makes your home a place where you can lead the life that you want.

0:36.7

Today's tip comes from an episode of NPR's Life Kit, featuring a conversation

0:41.8

between host Mariel Segarra and Casey Davis, a therapist and author of How to Keep House

0:48.3

while drowning. Casey Davis noted that what we want from a space may vary from person to person,

0:56.1

but cleaning tends to let us use our space.

1:00.6

It is hard to enjoy great meals if you can't find a clean plate.

1:05.4

It is hard to relax and wind down for bed if your bed is covered with dirty laundry.

1:10.6

And it is hard to stay on top of

1:12.3

papers and tasks when bills and mail could be anywhere. With that in mind, cleaning isn't something

1:21.4

required to impress an external audience. And cleaning isn't a moral obligation. Having a messy house doesn't make you a bad

1:31.8

person, any more than having a clean house makes you a saint. I imagine there are some mean people

1:39.1

with spotless houses. Instead, having a clean house simply lets you use your house. In other words,

1:48.1

you don't exist to serve your space. It exists to serve you. What matters, according to Davis,

1:55.7

is whether my house is functioning and whether I'm able to live the kind of life I want to inside of it.

2:04.4

I love that. If you are able to find what you need, gather with friends and family in the way you want to,

2:12.5

relax, sleep well, get work done, and do whatever else you ask of your home, then your home is in good shape.

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